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Here's the deal: No matter what anyone says when Roe v Wade is overturned it is not going to hurt me or anyone at any college in this country. It is not going to affect the daughter ( or wife for that matter) of any rich Congressman or Senator. It will solely affect females in red states who have no education, no means to travel to a blue state to get an abortion, the women whose husband beats her and feels that pregnant and barefoot is the way to go and the girl who has no hope of a college education as she knows nothing other than having babies and no one has told her differently or helped her further her education in any way. This will perpetuate the poverty and ignorance down thru infinity, but whatever..... go for it idiots. That's all I have to say �. Well, that and thinking that only a small percentage of homosexuals are actually true homosexuals and unchangeable is just plain weird, but go ahead defend him with your life. He�s smart enough and certainly fifteen to a hundred steps above the otherone. Do not for any reason tell me he is not an ideologue because I don�t believe you. Remember to check out my rental person Jay on the left there, he�s hot. I made apple pies with friends last evening, we�ll discus this later. Oh speaking of fools check out Fool�s Gold. If you always wanted to ask Dear Abbey a question but the nasty hair-do really turned you off go ask the Fool. Seriously do it as only a fool would link me to his fool blog but not to his more serious Bread and Circus site and he needs some better questions so go lay it on him. I have been pondering all of my serious life issues trying to decide which ones to submit to him myself; the list is long so it�s taking awhile. Sorry, no skinny geeky guy lyrics today, I'm going to enjoy the weather and study my ass off. forgive me the title but as I'm still getting searches for Michaels Phelps pubic hair I thought I'd do with it today.
posted by Cooper at 11/05/2005 12:33:00 PM
22 Comments:
No, that's not true. Abortion was legal in New York state and one other state before Roe. States rights in cases like this supersede federal; it's a state decision. There are other rulings having to do with Medicaid reimbursement, and some states want parental notification--not sure it's in effect
Roe made it legal in all states. If I'm over explaining it's because it's a common mistake and not really talked about
But what I think Alice meant was that she's sheltered from the fray, as even if it were to be illegal in every state, Alice would be able to find a good abortionist--hopefully.
If she couldn't find one here, she would do what girls did before they were legal and go to Puerto Rico or another country
Before abortions were legal, an older girl I had known all my life, had one. She was rich, but it was a time in history where many girls didn't feel comfortable talking to their moms about this
She went off to college in Iowa; next thing we knew she had spectic poisining. Her parents raced to be with her. My father was about to board a plane to go there, when we found out she had died.
She was my idol; she was perfect with frosted hair--okay that part I didn't like, a real Chanel bag that I coveted though I was a hippie
Lara died at 18, in 1965. Her family was never the same. Her parents would have done anything to have turned back the clock to be able to talk to her.
Please keep the lines of communication open; daughters should never feel that they did something horrible and can't tell their parents.
Her parents were so ashamed they didn't tell mine exactly what had happened. I was only fifteen but I figured it out. I went to a party in her town,that weekend, and everybody was talking about it.
Our parents had a side business together, and I worked with her mother sometimes. When I was in college she asked if I knew how Lara died. I said I thought so, and she talked to me. It was horrible. She was the archetype perfect suburban housewife, always dressed to the nines and composed. She broke down; for some reason I was the first person she could talk to about this.
When I told my parents years later, they had a hard time accepting it at first.
Her death finally made sense; that wasn't the problem. Her parents had always said that she had a cold that went into her blood stream, that made no sense.
My parents had a hard time because in their hearts they knew that if a similiar thing happened to me, I wouldn't have gone to them.
Though I had to tell my mom at least 20 times that day, "of course I would have told you."
Revisionist history is a good thing when you don't need your parents to help you anymore.
I am adopted but Roe is one of the things I would die for
And I never expected to be in America in 2005 wondering about such things
Should probably put this in a post, but don't feel like crying even more. Yes it still makes me cry at times.
Abortion should have been legal. Lara should have been able to go to her parents since it wasn't
And don't give me crap, well I know Alice won't, about parental notification. She was 18; but even if she had been younger, she was going to have the abortion no matter what. It should have been a safe no brainer.
When I say "chose life," I mean people who are already living should be the priority, not a fetus or a stem cell. Gawd what a fucked up country we live in.
Wasn't going to blogs today somehow came here and...
Sorry for the length, Alice, but you know me, kinda get impassioned.
You are indeed missing something. Roe v Wade declared that states do not have the right to ban abortion. Only a federal law could effect a ban, and that would fucking never fly.
It should however be noted that there has always been abortion, legalized or no. It just tends to be a shade more gruesome and less safe. And it's going to happen anywhere that there's a ban.
The problem is not that he's so far to the right, it is the company that he is in.
Intelligent people who are capable of believing that sort of shit are a grave danger to everyone within earshot.
If roe v wade is over turned states can then ban abortion. That is the bottom line, obviously many states won't but the people affected are those that I indicated in my post. That is a fact. Even if for some reason this country leapt into an even worse scenario people like me would not have difficulty getting an abortion as I could fly anywhere in the world to get the best possible. I don't know it's all pretty clear to me...but then again I've been out all day and it has been a beautiful clear day and you know what they say................................
On a clear day you can not only see forever ( and you can see it all
I don't know that I even can have feelings to express on abortion. I had a cousin who's wife (now ex) would have died if they hadn't aborted, so I do agree that it has to be kept legal.
As a male, particularly as one who has never impregnated anyone, I don't have any qualifications to make any sort of decision. If it came to a vote, I would vote to keep it legal. Like others have said on here, regardless of the legality, it would continue to happen, and it is better to happen clinically, instead of some of the horrid ways I have heard described and don't wish to repeat.
I feel way over my head. I'd make an off-color joke about video boys, but I'm out of material. Someone give me a hug, please.
Your a bright young thing aren't you. If I hadn't lost half my blog tonight I'd write more but I'm ticked at this whole blogger thing right now.
I have a two year old so I 'm not getting into rights or wrongs but you're right alice about the population of women that will be hurt most by this.
I'm not checking out anything else until tomorrow but then I'll catch the rest.
You're right, Alice. The deep desire to have laws that endorse the advice you'd give is a level of busybody-ness that annoys me. Do you think it would help if I publicly promise not to have an abortion or marry another man? Maybe that would take some of the heat off of Roe and the marriage amendment.
Fool's gold is fun. I'm proud to say I've had a question answered there.
Now, tell us about the apple pie and don't rush through it.
As someone who both believes in God and pro-choice I would never have an abortion nor would I ever advise someone I knew to get one.
Yet I would never vote for it to be taken away. I'm not arrogant enough to believe I know what's best for everybody. Nobody makes that kind of decision lightly and if, at the end of her soul-searching, someone still thinks it's the right choice then it's always best to do what you think is right. Always.
I've been waiting to hear someone who's pro life say that for a long time. Thank you.
Keep people's choices free. Hehehe... "true" homosexual...I have a belief everyone is a little bi curious now and then. So turning the table, are there any "true" heterosexuals (meaning that they have NEVER have thought of what it would be like to be with the same sex or even pondered it)? Lift the social american taboo and there lay the answer.
I also want to hear about the apple pies...sounds perfectly yummy!
And yes, Dear Abbey's hair is one of nature's most hideous creations, thus leading to myself being frightened to ask her my life's meanings.
Awwww...sorry about the skinny, geeky guy comment. I know how you love them so.
I agree alice cooper or not. Well put. If they really thought about it they would leave it alone and move on.
To answer the above question I have never been curious as to what it would be like to do it with a guy except in pondering reasons to keep myself out of prison. No wait, I'm going to say this before Alice reminds me of it; in high school I was greatly offended that when we asked one of our gay friends which one of us guys he thought was the hottest he did not choose me.
Then I feel I have to qualify it by stating how manly I really am, I play soccer and lacrosse, surf and snowboard. I feel better trying to prove I am really a man. I�m sure everyone has had a fleeting thought and if they say they have not they are not telling the truth. It doesn�t mean in all cases they want to act on it but the thought is there.
My girlfriend is sitting here beside me and she says is she has always liked Angelina Jolie ----
Great post. What you say is spot on. It's the folks who are not well off that would be the hardest hit by a ban on abortion. My husband and I are not rich by any means, and we're actually trying to have kiddos, but even if abortion were banned in the red state I live in, I would have the means to find an abortionist if a daughter of mine ever needed one.
Here by way of, um, actually I'm not sure. Verrrrrrrry slow day at work, shall we say, and I presently have 11 windows open. Though, I know I've seen ya on Blogg'd before.
Bravo. You are spot on.
I believe more women than you think would be hurt. When abortions are not legal everywhere, the price rises and the disreputability factor goes up, so they become less accessible and less safe for everyone. A close relative of mine who was at an expensive college pre-Roe v. Wade (and the pill) had two abortions that I believe were unnecessarily traumatic for these reasons. (So she was a little clumsy). The third time, when it was rape, she was not able to raise the money and get to New York in time even though she had some means available, and that was even more traumatic.
Girl: I don't advocate it as a form of birth control either and don't know anyone who does. But ya.
Yes he is even with a messed up face.
Coyote:
I 'm glad you see that as a man you do not qualify to make that decision. You are getting up there on your hug quota.
protagoras: I try to have someone learn something at least once a week.
averagebizman:yes I am. yeah Blogger is nasty lately.
Doug: Humm what kind of question. His questions are too tame for me.I highly recommend him to others though. ;)
breasier: thank you babes
Wombat:i have heard many people who say they would not have an abortion themselves say that.
Leigh: I'm sure everyone has thought of it at least most people. ha ha I do love them so.
robotman: ha ha figures you go for the sex question. Your right.
Zubegirl: nice of you to pop in and I have been at blogg's more that once. lol
Dedd: Takes Bow...does that spell bow or bow. lol god i'm tired.
weirdso: maybe but I don't know that many people that wouldn't be able to take off and go wherever and I don't think the social stigma would be the same. I think that it is just going to oppress the people this kind of thing always oppresses.
that is a rather messed up story though.
I think you are entirely correct about Roe.
I will say that I think the right wing will not stop at over turning Roe either. Their ultimate goal is to have a Constitutional amendment banning abortions, making it entirely illegal for states to make their own laws. So if Roe is overturned, then an amendment is their next goal.
There is a lot at stake.
We were discussing this last week in one of my classes and there were some questions as to whether this would happen. I am not much for politics but it seems as though this would lurk as a distinct possibilty-the part about them then going after the states rights by an amendment.
I love apple pies but would not have figured you for an apple pie maker.
mj: you're scaring me, but you may be right.
Jake: Not an apple pie maker; not even close.
Overturning Roe may be the least of anyone's worries. We've also got the systematic removal of constitutional rights to worry about too. This new guy kinda reminds me of Ashcroft. At least Meiers seemed honest...too conservative, but possibly a deep thinker as well...somewhere in there.
Yes my constititional rights and it begins with roe v wade.
Miers seemed Blinded by the Light.
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